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Kiwi · Apr 05, 2005, 02:07 AM // 02:07

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Another subject *sigh*. Get me clear son I'm gonna say this once, not twice, but once.

1) The game is not about leveling, it's about skill.
2) Besides leveling you can do missions, quests, guild fights, play in the tombs, fight in the arena, explore areas, make friends, and many many more things. THE GAME DOES NOT END AFTER LEVEL 20. IT BEGINS AFTER LEVEL 20.
3) There are no raid, there is no PK'ing, there is no spawn-killing, and there is no grind. There never will be.
4) They will never raise the cap. Never. It would defeat the purpose of the game.

The previous statements will not be repeated, if you ask why, criminal charges will be placed. You will be sent to prison where you will die of your own rotting flesh.

Have a nice day.

Darkmane · Apr 05, 2005, 02:16 AM // 02:16

LOL Kiwi--- I spit out my koolaid on my keyboard reading your reply. Relax, .. we knew there were going to be an influx of newbs noobs and total n00bs that are going to flood in these upcoming weeks and probably go on for months after the game is released. You just need to put all the good replies in notepad and copy and paste and give them the 'canned' response like most companies do.

Nyx · Apr 05, 2005, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Be nice to the noobs!

Sin · Apr 05, 2005, 02:29 AM // 02:29

May I suggest you set aside your preconcieved notions of any other games and do not assume that the next new game will necessarily be like the games you played before. Arena.net is like the "100th" monkey as far as the evolution of gaming is concerned. GuildWars will re-invigorate you to gaming because the burdens of having fun are gone!

Please see my post (#10 right now) at the following link. I linked threads that I hope will help the new and disgruntled gamer alike to realize the GuildWars difference.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0883#post20883

Darkmane · Apr 05, 2005, 02:38 AM // 02:38

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Originally Posted by Sin

May I suggest you set aside your preconcieved notions of any other games and do not assume that the next new game will necessarily be like the games you played before. Arena.net is like the "100th" monkey as far as the evolution of gaming is concerned. GuildWars will re-invigorate you to gaming because the burdens of having fun are gone!

Please see my post (#10 right now) at the following link. I linked threads that I hope will help the new and disgruntled gamer alike to realize the GuildWars difference.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0883#post20883

I simply must concurr to the 100th monkey ~~

This game is simply different than anything I have currently played before. It is so refreshing that there are still developers out there with the ingenuity and imagination to conceive such an excellent game to play. I do not know how anyone can browse these theads and not see that this game is simply awsome -simply awsome!

spiritofcat · Apr 05, 2005, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by balbanebeoulve

Okay, I hear the caps at lvl 20 and it's reach-able in days, or even weeks. So I play a week, am I done with this game? Or is it another blizzard game - endless raids for the best lewt and then spending hours and then losing due to lack of luck in rolls. I'm getting of WoW due to the endless raiding, and then the /random 100 factor.

So, what do you do after lvl 20? Or do I have the wrong angle.

Thanks in advance.

You have entirely the wrong angle, in fact it could be say you're facing backwards.
Refer to other peoples' replies for details.

Dreamsmith · Apr 05, 2005, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by balbanebeoulve

Okay, I hear the caps at lvl 20 and it's reach-able in days, or even weeks. So I play a week, am I done with this game?

It's better than some other games. I was playing StarCraft the other day and I maxed my tech tree within a few minutes, since they capped levels at 3 in that game. Three! Got there in a few minutes, then quit the game. Played several matches, always hit level 3 pretty quickly. What a boring game.

What, was there something else to do besides level? What on earth would I do once I've maxed out my stats? No point in continuing the game after that...

balbanebeoulve · Apr 05, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

"What, was there something else to do besides level? What on earth would I do once I've maxed out my stats? No point in continuing the game after that..."

Invalid comparison, how do you compare an MMO to an RTS? okay, there..

"Besides leveling you can do missions, quests, guild fights, play in the tombs, fight in the arena, explore areas, make friends, and many many more things"

Okay, so I just get skills? So will skills become like trying to get that UBER weapon in other games? Like "omg, I need to kill this boss 1000x to get his skill"

I can do quests in WoW all day, or I can even pretend to quests "Kill 100 xx mob", what makes quests so special?

Kiwi · Apr 05, 2005, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by balbanebeoulve

"What, was there something else to do besides level? What on earth would I do once I've maxed out my stats? No point in continuing the game after that..."

Invalid comparison, how do you compare an MMO to an RTS? okay, there..

"Besides leveling you can do missions, quests, guild fights, play in the tombs, fight in the arena, explore areas, make friends, and many many more things"

Okay, so I just get skills? So will skills become like trying to get that UBER weapon in other games? Like "omg, I need to kill this boss 1000x to get his skill"

I can do quests in WoW all day, or I can even pretend to quests "Kill 100 xx mob", what makes quests so special?

This is a seriously bad case. First of all: There are no uber weapons. Oh and Quests are fun there aren't kill this 100x more like 5x. But see unlike other games, fighting is actually fun.

No skills are not everything, your own personel skill is the most important thing. But to get skills you need money, and a skill point. Skill points can be attained from, missions, quests, and leveling up.

bobert · Apr 05, 2005, 03:13 AM // 03:13

I recommend you use the search button to find the other hundreds of posts regarding the same topic.

Xellos · Apr 05, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43

This so explains the problems with the GW community in that other thread.

Smiggles · Apr 05, 2005, 03:45 AM // 03:45

nice! so after you hit 20 you cant gain skill points through PvE ?

spiritofcat · Apr 05, 2005, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Smiggles

nice! so after you hit 20 you cant gain skill points through PvE ?

What gives you that idea?
The only thing that changes after you reach level 20 is that you no longer get any more attribute points. You can still gain skills just like before.

Davion · Apr 05, 2005, 04:43 AM // 04:43

A whole lot of threads go into this explanation.

Simply put.. Going from level 1-20 is only building your character and getting you accustomed to how to "operate" your chosen build (attribute distribution).
After reaching level 20 (ascension), there is still a full game of playing to do. Whether it be PvP or PvE (PvM aka). You can join or make a guild; do pick up gaming with friends; run entirely solo with henchmen only.
There is no wrong or right way to play the game. It doesn't end there though. There is also a way to change your secondary proffession after you reach level 20, so that you may learn a different secondary. You will not lose the skills of your first secondary, but they will not get any boosts from your attributes as there will be no points spent in them.
Feasibly you could cycle one character through all the secondaries (5) and have access to ALL skills if you so choose.
The idea behind the skills is using a set number (8) at any given time to your best advantage. The skill is in coordinating those effects with either the missions you are doing at hand or in conjunction with the objectives of the guild team you are on if playing in a guild matchup.

This is NOT ANY TYPICAL online game. This is an entirely unique genre without any precursors to it. This is probably the biggest reason why there are so many of these pre-conceved notions about what one may or belive it to be like as far as what they have played. The most important thing to remember? PLAY it. Best way to understand the motive behind the game is to get into the game. There is no fee EVER for this game; so if you end up not liking it, the only thing you'd be out on is the initial cost of the game CD; not any monthly fees that are tacked on. (BECAUSE there NEVER will be any)

And... if nothing I said makes any impression on you, then perhaps this isn't a game you should try. But I think you would be missing out on a truly unique gaming experience if you didn't try.

Lunarhound · Apr 05, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

One of the main points of doing quests in GW is to advance the story. Guild Wars has an ongoing central plot advanced through cooperative missions that tells a story which will continue into the forseeable future as new chapters are added.

As for gaining skills, there will be several ways to go about it, including questing for them, capturing them from monsters using a Capture Signet, and buying them from trainers, using skill points that you earn by gaining experience.

You really need to play the game to understand what we're talking about, here. Guild Wars is not World of Warcraft. It's not Everquest. It's only vaguely similar to any other MMORPG's you may have played in the past. The emphasis here isn't on killing monsters or doing fetch quests in order to facilitate the illusion of progress that typical level grinds offer. The emphasis here is on actually playing the game and having fun doing it.

Sin · Apr 05, 2005, 05:48 AM // 05:48

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Originally Posted by Smiggles

nice! so after you hit 20 you cant gain skill points through PvE ?

Smiggles, in the betas before the character wipe, i had a level 20 character that I maxed out the exp bar on and continued to do quests with, in both of these i continued to get skill points at that time. Since the wipe I don't know if that has been changed as my main character is level 18. So it might still be true, I am not certain at this time.

Also Balbanebeoulve I hope you checked that link from my previous post, I think seeing all the energy of the community will help you understand how much different the game is. Sometimes it takes some time to let go of the past ideology of the "grind" gaming experience, with all its expectations and conditioning.

chalt2 · Apr 05, 2005, 11:56 AM // 11:56

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Originally Posted by balbanebeoulve

"What, was there something else to do besides level? What on earth would I do once I've maxed out my stats? No point in continuing the game after that..."

Invalid comparison, how do you compare an MMO to an RTS? okay, there..

"Besides leveling you can do missions, quests, guild fights, play in the tombs, fight in the arena, explore areas, make friends, and many many more things"

Okay, so I just get skills? So will skills become like trying to get that UBER weapon in other games? Like "omg, I need to kill this boss 1000x to get his skill"

I can do quests in WoW all day, or I can even pretend to quests "Kill 100 xx mob", what makes quests so special?

Well, it would seem that you have made up your mind, so why the post?

This game is not for everyone, no game ever will be, so to that end I have no other advise for you but to say good luck and I hope you find a game that you can play and enjoy.

HotSnack · Apr 05, 2005, 01:28 PM // 13:28

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Originally Posted by Dreamsmith

It's better than some other games. I was playing StarCraft the other day and I maxed my tech tree within a few minutes, since they capped levels at 3 in that game. Three! Got there in a few minutes, then quit the game. Played several matches, always hit level 3 pretty quickly. What a boring game.

What, was there something else to do besides level? What on earth would I do once I've maxed out my stats? No point in continuing the game after that...

Guys, Dreamsmith is being sarcastic. If you couldn't tell by his post, then at least notice that one; he's in a guild, and two; he took the trouble of making himself a fancy little animated banner of his GW chars.

Smiggles · Apr 05, 2005, 02:19 PM // 14:19

I must say this game is truly for me, I have a life (unlike alot of gamers) so it is hard to keep up with all the other players when I join guilds. This game will fix that, not only this...but the graphics look truly amazing and gameplay seems as though it will go on forever! This is the game for me ALL AROUND - and no monthly fee just tops it right off!

chalt2 · Apr 05, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by HotSnack

Guys, Dreamsmith is being sarcastic. If you couldn't tell by his post, then at least notice that one; he's in a guild, and two; he took the trouble of making himself a fancy little animated banner of his GW chars.

Lady's and Gentlemen, today the role of Captain Obvious will be played by;

HotSnack

Thank you